A check of their website shows that it is indeed down, and from the looks of it not coming back. Lately all brands have seen how our creations are being reproduced illegally and without any scruples in a massive way. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. Warhammer fantasy was half my life and then they did this to me.. fuck them. Recasting gives these filthy companies a taste of their own medicine. No it is killing the cinema. (and here I come back the argument) its the small independent places that can no longer get the movies into big cinema chains because they wont bring in the numbers to cover the costs. However, by doing so we are ignoring the damage that this does to the industry behind this hobby of ours. I dont agree with that it is stealing, its models I would never buy anyway. They spend hundreds of thousands of dollars creating their cast presses for the units. At a glance, recasts appear quite similar, but when looked at closely, important flaws become evident. You are stealing. Obviously, as you will see now, the original copy hasvery good quality in every detail. View, download or. As it goes for GW story is different as plastic is better, quality great and models in box sets are not so expensive. GW copycat ideas from sourses like Terminator,Alien, Dungeons and Dragons and what not. Finally, are you sure you arent a recaster? I wonder If anybody writing that ever have ever hold Forge World model. I have about 400 original models and tons of scenery stuff etc so ive spent a fortune. I have to necro a bit here. They were available on the ebay site of the Chinese network named Taobao. My only experience with recasts were a set of transparent Tau stealth suits which, while everyone agreed were really cool, I was told not to use them. rockit cool direct die oculus link mic not working. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases. The cost of your model is not only resin, but a sum of the voice, buy from a recaster and you are a thief like the recaster itself. Changed their name many times, now operating via email sending emails with links to the actual catalog. The models they had to sculpt digitally and then cast in a way they would both fit in the box, and be easy to mass produce. We arent saying you shouldnt buy alternate versions of models that you can use in your tabletop games. Recaster Z is the lowest cost and highest inventory overall, with a bit of a cut on quality. Cheers. In addition, as you will see later, the casting is not good and irregular surfaces of material are very evident. I love the crocodile tears about the indie companies. Reporting to our Senior Legal Counsel, you will be part of our Legal team which handles a wide range of legal matters which affect Games Workshop including infringements, trade mark and copyright protection, competitions, dispute resolution and litigation, to name but a few! Yes, this is a business for me, my only job since 25 years, the way I have to pay my bills and keep doing what I love. Manufacturer SCALE 75 minis, have put their foot down and advocated an anti-piracy message into the hobby world. Recast companies will be making more profit than the small indies as they dont have any other costs. The arguments here are simple white knighting and emotional, there is no one actually willing to discuss anything or addressing recasting. "R" refreshes comments. And what about the companies (from small to big) that produce miniatures based on comics/movies/books/games/characters/ without paying for a license? Recasters are selling multitudes of more models than the actual creator. Even so, I think this issue began with Chinese copies of Forgeworld references. Thats the total cost for them, packaging, payroll, the lot. Recaster Z is the lowest cost and - #171951649 added by manollette at Desu Korps of Kreig Upload. Although you will see the very evident differences, during this comparison you will find the original piece on the left pictures and the recast to the right. The China Warhammer recaster known as CDR recently announced that they are: shutting down business for good and that a handful of people are buying all their master molds. It is the same, in my opinion, as downloading movies and music that you havent paid for the right to see. It is very bad quality, hard plastic etc. But in the past 2 years their stock has sky rocketed. The 9th Edition of 40k is going to be open and crowd sourced by the players, for the players, for the betterment of the game instead of lining GWs pockets. But there is a thing Id wish to point out, its the Chinese stigmatisation I am french living in China for about ten years now, and Chinese bashing is just a constant thing I hear from most of westerners and is absolutely not right either. 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The resin used is crap, brittle, with a lot of detail being lost and probably it is even toxic. Dont get confused. Do they source their injection molds from Australian materials and Mexican labor? There was something about those little-colored blocks that started it all Twitter @catdaddymbg, Get ad-free access to our hobby videos, a monthly crate of miniatures, and support some of the best creators out there for as little as, If you buy something from a link on our site, we may earn a commision. hell do they even pay their staff a decent wage. to produce a 45 dollar marine squad it cost 5 bucks, sure. This scourge of the hobby is a worldwide problem. Right now, a few companies simply stopped selling to Russia as their figures instantly get listed on pirated stores. This also amounts to stealing somebody elses work. GW also has a massive network of stores. Somone else will reinvent a more reasonable wheel. We cant do anything but have thought experiments because unlike other companies, GW wont discuss the affects of recasting and no one has published any kind of reasonable peer reviewed study. @Greg. And I do not buy the excuse hey, this is an expensive hobby. Hell, 5 years ago they were barely with 10 dollars a share. Finecast is so good, I really dont understand recast buyers ! Ill never buy legitimate versions now with the re casts being so good from where I get them from. No well known miniature company is safe from this practice. It leaves you a very salty taste. Blaming the pirates did not work for the music or film industries, it will not work here either. Recasts and piracy, in general, is suddenly on the rise across the hobby as a whole, as other manufacturers and independent artists are also starting to take a hit. And I firmly put the blame into the hands of piracy aka stealing. Thanks for the guys who give chance for better value and access to minis that I will never otherwice will be able to buy. Virginia Restless, Miniature Painter & Cat Dad. Copyright 2009-2023. I get that its not just the model, the companies have huge overheads prior to selling a model. After evaluating each and every aspect that could lead us to look for a cheaper product, we see that getting the original product will undoubtedly make our experience with the miniature hobby much better. All I can say is that the metal quality is horrible. are doing this with the intention to create a well costed, and quality product. We just make claims. So, no, thats straight up greed, and while morally not as bad as 700% increase on the cost of pharmaceuticals, its the same mindset. But I can spend 25-30 on a recast and its perfect first time. And people have stopped going because why spend 20 on a family trip to the cinema (10 years ago) when you can get the movie for free. I got several figs from them, all ended up at GW legal that promptly provided me with a . Theyre decent sculpts, decent quality minis. Only we can act effectively against miniature recasting! Just as with Lietpold, the amount of resin and burrs it has is endless, making it especially difficult to find out what belongs to the model and what is left over. Im not into recasting but what I find ridiculous is Games Workshops prices. Nor is an active and enterprising collaborator of many projects related to our community, contributing with ideas, work on social networks and the Internet. Its not difficult to find recasts, or at least, know where to look for them. Why, then, does FW (who run a much smaller operation, fewer employees, use silicon moulds rather than the hundred thousand pound plastic ones) charge 40 for a box of 10 Krieg Troopers? Because without these proper companies, our industry would never evolve and improve, and we would probably go back to painting flat detail-less DIY miniature soldiers (with all my respects towards them). But good way to name and shame yourself, although I doubt there is any shame there. In this role, you will be monitoring websites and sales platforms to identify infringements and counterfeit products and then you will follow a structured process for removing those products, reducing counterfeit products available across all sales platforms and websites. All of my recasts are better quality that forgeworkd or other manufacturers. Like any economic entity, they need to obey the law of supply and demand ACROSS their customer base. They tried to grow way too fast and their main game had waaay to many units and thus huge costs to cover it. LET THEM sink. 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