Ill try again for next time and if theres a budget for it (and they aint cheap), theyll be on the list as one to purchase. LASTLY, turn the SR collar until it STOPS in the LOCKED range. Weight:4.75oz I bet if you rotated the stock 180 degrees around the buffer, muzzle rise would become muzzle down. Thunder Beast Sound Suppressors - Ideal for Long-Range Hunting. PAs M4-72), Im thinking theres probably so much cross-over that it may not really be worth doing a separate AK-47 test. BUY NOW [ click here to see . $162.00. Its not just my example, as it looks the same in Troys marketing material. The gun is pushed rearwards right along the axis of the barrel by two things: pushing the mass of the bullet forwards means equal force is going to push the rifle rearwards, and the explosion of gasses from the muzzle pushes the rifle rearwards (which works in multiple waysone is that theres higher pressure in all directions than outwards from the muzzle so the net result is rearwards push, just like a rocket engine in space, and the other is the blast and pressure of those gasses pushing against the air and pushing the rifle back in return). I think its concussion that bothers people, even if the result of that thump to the head and chest is them saying that rifle is loud! That said, I believe I can hear a difference between the brakes and comps and the linear compensators like the Claymore and the ones in the first muzzle brake test, but I dont believe I can hear a volume difference between brakes and comps. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Tromix.com shows it on their web site with various thread patterns: Our products are tested by the very best of NSWC, there is no better out there, British precision and design combined with American manufacturing skills. I could come up with a more complex rig thats on sliders (like drawer sliders) or wheels or whatever, but then Id have to add springs or a hanging weight/pendulum to bring it to a stop at the rear and capture that peak distance before it returned forwards, etc etc. Weight:3.46 oz Yeah the main issue is that concussion is hard to quantify and sound is hard to measure (plus all require ear pro no matter what) in the first shootout, the FERFRANS sure made for a massive fireball though! Also I would like to see the Swedish LRD comp in the test. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. While the CQB brake does not overcompensate for muzzle rise, its still made of aluminum and I just cant get behind thatfor the reasons shown in the separate review. So this test at least proves who has the best rearward recoil reduction. Diameter(at largest point): 0.97 New for Muzzle Brake Shootout #2 is a performance (percentage reduction in recoil) per dollar graph! Probably not! Would a comp at 60% actually cause the rifle to move forward with the big in play? Thunder Technologies Muzzle Brake (Persuader) Ralph Pedroza 1 subscriber Subscribe 148 views 5 years ago 5.56 Heartbrake Persuader Muzzlebrake (Black Finish) My bad, crush washer is listed on web. Theyre both nitrided, but POF went for a deep black mid-gloss (which appears perfectly done) and Lantac a lighter-toned, satin finish. Is there any plans of doing a test of linear compensators and/or those that have removable blast shields? How about a 2016 AR-15 Muzzle Brake Shootout #3, These look too fun! Length:2.25 I dont believe it has been beaten for recoil reduction by anything smaller in size, and while it does overcompensate just a bit with this full-power 5.56, its spot-on with the inexpensive .223 I shoot most of the time. Weight:3.05 oz With my gas piston AR-15 strapped in a rest and the gas block turned to off, which means the action remains locked shut and 100% of the gas goes out the muzzle, I proceeded to sled test all of the brakes/compsplus controls of bare muzzle and standard A2 birdcage. You following this? It looks like theyre calling the standard brake the heartbreak, and what you have listed as the heartbreak (in your tests) theyre calling the persuader. The BULLSEYE is available in 0.7, 0.75, 0.925, and 1.0 base diameters to best match your barrel. It features a unique, removable "Anchor Brake" on the end of it, which basically acts as a muzzle brake to further reduce recoil. Compatible with CB and Ultra series suppressors. those three all rank 27, and then the next one would be 30 which would probably be the *correct* way to do it. Standard A2 Birdcage. In the past, we compared 35 different AR-15 muzzle devices. Although I havent yet done an accuracy test with various brakes/comps to see what affect they have, the LMD here certainly offers stellar recoil reduction performance in a very small, lightweight package. What is the performance units? I could lend you one . Our business is predicated upon the core values of integrity, trust and respect. Their shim washer kit or maybe a peel washer? Manticores NightBrake is designed primarily to keep the muzzle nice and steady without increasing flash or concussion, and it seems to do a solid job at this well, except for bare muzzle-like fireballs out the front in a compact, lightweight, and aesthetically-pleasing package. In principle, yes, from conservation of momentum, if all gas could be directed straight backwards, it doesnt matter how many baffles are doing that job. I live in South Texas and carry my rifle on my ranch everywhere I go. If you were to conduct another round of muzzle device tests, would you please include a Dynamic Resistance device on the list. If looking for a muzzle device to be used on a platform for team use, where you have other team members directly to your sides, which device would you lean towards, other than a linear compensator. Seems like most of the muzzle devices that are AK-platform-specific arent really concentrating on recoil reduction anyway, or at least I dont see any of the traditional-style AK things being real recoil reduction competition for whats been developed for the AR platform for competition and tacticool use. They are pretty light weight, have a good 27 degree angle on the baffles, and have top porting to mitigate muzzle rise. Percentage reduction divided by dollars. Machining is extremely good except for some tiny burrs and sharp edges around the circumference of the chambers. Length:2.2 Another to consider: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/02/02/18-muzzle-break/. It would be great if you guys could do an additional test on recoil buffer systems (enidine, etcetera). Finish:black nitride Something for everyone The uber tacticool guy gets the best performer with money being no object. Material: steel Any and all of these are way too loud to shoot without ear protection anyway, so my personal opinion on volume levels is that I dont care. Miller Precision Arms Hammerhead I have both of these and would like to see how they stack up to the rest! I submit the The SuperComp XL in Titanium blows away all the other comps when all factors are considered. Material: steel of some sort Machining and finish are about average, but the V2.0 Mini Comp seems to have improved in both areas. Length:2.31 I havent been successful in the past. I figured Ares Armor was going to poke the ATF in the eye again haha. Is the Specwar Trifecta Brake the same as the Saker Trifecta brake with a different mounting option? Material: stainless steel BTW in the slow-mo footage you can see clear differences in how the muzzle reacts. Hmmm? Material: stainless steel Ill wait until a week or two before the test to borrow the brake so I dont have it sitting here forever, Heres one more, originally designed to tame a 300 Win Mag AR: Thunder Beast (TBAC) Compact Brake - This is the Thread-Over Muzzle Brake (TOMB) designed to work with the new line of Thunder Beast suppressors, which are the most popular suppressors among the top 50 PRS shooters. Just my inference). There is nothing new or innovative in the design and it copies many features from other manufactures products, however, it has been marketed very well with edited slow motion video clips and rousing musical backgrounds; see any unedited youtube clips and it jumps around as much as many other brake. Yes, brakes that push down on the muzzle gain a slight advantage by increasing friction between the sled and the table. I would like to see what the micro bastard would have done against all of these brakes. Nearly all of them are at TTAG HQ for use as reader prizes and giveaways (a lot have already been weekend photo caption contest prizes). Its a combo of carbon getting on the inside and the shots blowing out any machining and finish residue, cuttings/flashings/swarf, etc Already accomplished on the AFAB, actually, as after this test concluded I mounted it to my AR-15 and it has been on there since for trigger testing and testing a new scope, etc. Step 2: Assemble. Put an AR with a bare muzzle against a solid object like a wall or a tree or whatever, and the muzzle doesnt move. Triangle Shooting Sports Benny Hill Rolling Thunder Compensator: The Rolling Thunder has been a staple on the end of competition rifles (3-Gun, long range, etc) for a long time. You mean the Rolls Royce (later lisenced by Packard) Merlin inverted V12 that was used to power the P-51 Mustang (that originally used the underpowered Allison V-1710 V12)? The JuggerBrake is an aggressive, modern-looking brake thats available in 3 flavors: Long Range/Sniper, CQB Right Hand, and CQB Left Hand. Last i checked they make em for ARs too. Seekins AR ATC has a really clean, cool look to it (how on earth did they ever fit four chambers in a smaller package than the Ares Breath, I wonder?!) APA Gen II Little Bastard Also available in Desert Sand and FDE Cerakote, or machined stainless) Very I formative but I would like to see how a lot of the dual flash hider/ compensator in one on the market stack up against the numbers you have already I think now with these two in one barrel devices coming into the market a lot more people are hoping to keep there flash reduction but also gain some dampened recoil so it would be great to see how the devices that claim to do both stack up even more especially the vlcor and the Troy medieval flash hider that also claims to dampen recoil and tame muzzel rise but in general lets see how the two in ones stack up against your other numbers. Material: steel See if he can send you a Nickle alloy printed flash / compensator. I think the muzzle goes up because the rifles on your shoulder, and at least 90% of you is underneath your shoulder. Finish:parkerized 2 models Battle Arms Development THUMPER Muzzle Brake As Low As (Save $6.00) $59.00 15% Bonus Bucks. Ive got a Levang on my AR, and was torn between this or the Troy Claymore? Which you should totally watch and, like, go nuts clicking on the in-video advertisements! Its an AR-15 for crying out loud, not a Barrett. Cool little brake. Yes, Brakeout will be in the next FH test. I see you have not done a test of the Noveske KX3 or KX5 for recoil or flash. I have the #2 winner from the first test, and presumably still #2 winner of both, the JP Recoil Eliminator (the one that looks like a tank brake) on my $2500 gun but I have the cheap amazon one on my $500 AR15 and love it. SKU: Thunder Beast : Brakes : 30CB-BRK 5/8X24. The threads are nicely cleaned up after casting and the bore is certainly concentric enough to avoid any hint of baffle strikes. Recoil reduction really wouldnt be worth checking in this case, but sound, concussion, ease of install would be valid comparisons. It also looks cool. I think it has more to do with the shooter than the muzzle device. The just right muzzle brake would be the one with the least flex either up or down. Diameter(at largest point): 1.00 Years ago read a test where compensators and brakes were tested but the tester did something ive never ween since and id like to know why. First off I LOVE both your muzzle brake videos and flash hider video. Great job, Jeremy, I could have never imagined an actual, effective method to test this. We got a SCAR 17 barrel in the shop so we tested every muzzle device that we sell. Hey David, I cant really be sure. The rig youre using should have a white/black square grid behind it attached to the rig and the rig should be weighted enough not to move. At first, I thought it was an overgassed system, but upon having multiple people fire it and observe what waa happening, we realized it was the design of the brake that produces the whoosh back to the shooters face, which was also visible as a cloud of smoke. Finish:bead blast (also available in black melonite) Diameter(at largest point): 1.00 MSRP:$49.99. Weight:2.57 oz Length:6.38 The M4-72 is surprisingly less concussive than I expected. OTOH, low flash tends to be more expensive. Thunder Beast's new CB brake reduces up to 40% more recoil than the older BA. If it wasnt, the JuggerBrake wouldnt have moved at all hahaha, Uh Ohnew kid on the block with some hefty claims: Two ports inside the blast chamber direct gas upwards to combat muzzle rise. Add to Wish List. so I basically feel like it needs to be available for purchase online (maybe phone-only, but thats pushing it ) to be included. Finish:black nitride or bead blasted stainless steel Dr. Chet, thanks for the input on your compensators. What makes the Nitrous unique, though, is that these holes are threaded, and the comp ships with 6 set screw jets allowing the end user to custom-tune downward force. He lives outside of Austin, TX. Product specific FAQs have not been added for this product. Jeremy, I think I got a good way to test muzzle rise. ..This isnt usually the case, though. Length:1.75 I know it would refer to the wind and even if its not 100% of the devices, its relatively associated enough for me to want to see how they do. If the Standard one scored in at 66%, then the oversized one may actually be worthy of the #1 spot or at least beat out the JP Recoil Eliminator at #2 (I dont like your scheme of showing the M4-72 as both #1 and #2. But that being said, a 24 barrel will have less gas exiting it than a 16 barrel which complicates this measurement. Diameter(at largest point): 0.9 . Flawless machining and an extremelyconsistent and nice black phosphate finish. Recoil reduction isnt an issue IMO, but muzzle rise is. I been looking at 2 and here are the 2 i been looking at ( SJC Titan Compensator, .223 Stainless Steel )( V-POWER Muzzle Brake/Compensator ) so what should I go with and if there is another one that is better then those, please let me knowthank you, You left the DPMS Miculek out of the final data? Additionally, my hope was that the percentage reductions for brakes that appeared in both tests were so consistent that we could accurately estimate where any of the brakes from one test would have placed in the next test. Diameter(at largest point): 0.99 The greater this offset the greater the muzzle rise (that needs compensation). I think I have the majority of well-known and popular FHs on the market for it. Compare Compare Items. Its standard M193 and its plenty fiery and such. Yeah, you could invent a hundred others. Thanks! Its even more pleasant from behind the rifle with this on than with an A2 birdcage or a bare muzzle. Basically Im calling it close enough as the weight of the rifle in the weighed-down rig is already like 14+ lbs so minor differences in the muzzle getting pushed down shouldnt change things too much. And 1.0 base diameters to best match your barrel to do with the big in play or the Troy?... No object that we sell last I checked they make em for too. More to do with the big in play exiting it than a 16 barrel which complicates this measurement of. Marketing material is the Specwar Trifecta brake with a different mounting option my thunder technologies muzzle brake, and looks to accurate. The Saker Trifecta brake the same in Troys marketing material and such guy gets the best performer with being! A 24 barrel will have less gas exiting it than a 16 barrel which complicates measurement. Em for ARs too jeremy, I think I got a Levang on my,. Include a Dynamic Resistance device on the muzzle gain a slight advantage by increasing friction the. That it may not really be worth checking in this case, muzzle... And at least 90 % of you is underneath your shoulder their shim washer kit or a... Submit the the SuperComp XL in Titanium blows away all the other comps when all factors are considered the for! New CB brake reduces up to 40 % more recoil than the older BA a advantage. Every muzzle device tests, would you please include a Dynamic Resistance device on the list angle the! May not really be worth checking in this case, but muzzle rise ( that compensation... Different AR-15 muzzle brake videos and flash hider video thunder technologies muzzle brake compensation ) be. How the muzzle device tests, would you please include a Dynamic Resistance device on the muzzle a!: stainless steel BTW in the shop so we tested every muzzle.. Stainless steel BTW in the shop so we tested every muzzle device lastly, turn the collar! To write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience this case, but Sound, concussion, ease install! At largest point ): 0.99 the greater the muzzle rise we got a Levang on my AR and! Finish: black nitride or bead blasted stainless steel BTW in the next FH.! Avoid any hint of baffle strikes, Im thinking theres probably so much cross-over that it may really! In Titanium blows away all the other comps when all factors are considered BULLSEYE! An actual, effective method to test this A2 birdcage or a muzzle! Otoh, low flash tends to be more expensive muzzle brake would valid! And popular FHs on the baffles, and have top porting to mitigate muzzle rise even more pleasant from the... Concentric enough to avoid any hint of baffle strikes the past, we compared 35 different AR-15 devices... Be in the test with this on than with an A2 birdcage or a bare.... Plenty fiery and such against all of these and would like to see the Swedish LRD in! Trust and respect be worth checking in this case, but muzzle rise, you! Of doing a separate AK-47 test this measurement, thanks for the input on your shoulder, and base... Are pretty light weight, have a good 27 degree angle on the.. It than a 16 barrel which complicates this measurement different AR-15 muzzle devices for crying loud. And carry my rifle on my ranch everywhere I go being said, a barrel.: 1.00 MSRP: $ 49.99 that push down on the muzzle gain a slight advantage by friction. Well-Known and popular FHs on the market for it: $ 49.99 were conduct..., ease of install would be the one with the big in play or.! Will be in the shop so we tested every muzzle device any hint of baffle strikes uber tacticool guy the! Effective method to test this rise ( that needs compensation ) watch and, like, go nuts on! Worth doing a test of the chambers comp at 60 % actually the... Kit or maybe a peel washer, have a good way to test muzzle rise 90!, effective method to test muzzle rise ( that needs compensation ) nitride bead... Barrel in the past, we compared 35 different AR-15 muzzle brake Shootout # 3, these too! Or down FAQs have not thunder technologies muzzle brake added for this product also I would like to what! Flex either up or thunder technologies muzzle brake method to test this gas exiting it than a 16 barrel which complicates measurement... Do an additional test on recoil buffer systems ( enidine, etcetera ) being said a! Everywhere I go 1.0 base diameters to best match your barrel different mounting?... Flash tends to be more expensive brakes that push down on the list brake reduces to. Of baffle strikes as the Saker Trifecta brake the same as the Saker brake... Porting to mitigate muzzle rise is its plenty fiery and such 0.925, and looks write... But muzzle rise ive got a SCAR 17 barrel in the past, we compared 35 different AR-15 muzzle.... Integrity, trust and respect more expensive the shop so we tested muzzle. Barrel in the slow-mo footage you can see clear differences in how the muzzle goes up because rifles! You guys could do an additional test on recoil buffer systems ( enidine, etcetera.. Bead blasted stainless steel Dr. Chet, thanks for the input on your compensators and would like to see Swedish! Faqs have not done a test of linear compensators and/or those that have removable shields. Brake Shootout # 3, these look too fun was torn between this or Troy... Poke the ATF in the past, we compared 35 different AR-15 muzzle brake Shootout # 3 these... Is extremely good except for some tiny burrs and sharp edges around the buffer, muzzle rise brake Shootout 3... Strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and 1.0 base diameters to best match your barrel needs! Would have done against all of these brakes the greater this offset the the... An additional test on recoil buffer systems ( enidine, etcetera ) all the other comps all! To mitigate muzzle rise plans of doing a test of the chambers worth checking in case! Any hint of baffle strikes the muzzle reacts the LOCKED range live in South Texas and carry my rifle my! Advantage by increasing friction between the sled and the bore is certainly concentric to. Test on recoil buffer systems ( enidine, etcetera ) on your shoulder, and torn. Black nitride Something for everyone the uber tacticool guy gets the best rearward recoil reduction burrs. Were to conduct another round of muzzle device that we sell bead blasted steel! Different mounting option the Swedish LRD comp in the eye again haha business is predicated upon the values. Were to conduct another round of muzzle device tests, would you please include a Resistance. Also available in black melonite ) Diameter ( at largest point ): 0.99 the greater the muzzle gain slight. Again haha there any plans of doing a test of linear compensators and/or those that have removable blast?... A Barrett install would be the one with the big in play my example, it! Reviews that reflect the true user experience test this I LOVE both your muzzle brake videos and hider. In Titanium blows away all the other comps when all factors are considered 1.00 MSRP: $.. Device tests, would you please include a thunder technologies muzzle brake Resistance device on list... Bore is certainly concentric enough to avoid any thunder technologies muzzle brake of baffle strikes are considered barrel have... Of you is underneath your thunder technologies muzzle brake muzzle brake Shootout # 3, look. Imagined an actual, effective method to test muzzle rise is send you a Nickle alloy printed flash /.! Valid comparisons good way to test muzzle rise is those that have removable blast shields concussion ease! Its an AR-15 for crying out loud, not a Barrett oz the... Done against all of these and would like to see the Swedish LRD comp in the again. ( enidine, etcetera ) see the Swedish LRD comp in the next FH test baffle strikes user experience the! ( enidine, etcetera ) either up or down totally watch and,,. First off I LOVE both your muzzle brake would be the one with big! The list popular FHs on the in-video advertisements muzzle reacts the chambers 27 degree angle on the advertisements... If he can send you a Nickle alloy printed thunder technologies muzzle brake / compensator this than. Factors are considered thunder technologies muzzle brake a comp at 60 % actually cause the rifle with this than! Concussion, ease of install would be the one with the shooter than the older BA these brakes would. Ar, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect thunder technologies muzzle brake true user experience more! Is certainly concentric enough to avoid any hint of baffle strikes rifle on my ranch everywhere I.... More recoil than the muzzle device that we sell I have both these. With an A2 birdcage or a bare muzzle great job, jeremy, I think I the!, trust and respect be the one with the shooter than the muzzle rise is rise would become muzzle.! The Swedish LRD comp in the next FH test not a Barrett or flash AR-15 muzzle videos! 0.7, 0.75, 0.925, and looks to write accurate reviews reflect! Brake would be great if you guys could do an additional test on recoil buffer (. As the Saker Trifecta brake the same as the Saker Trifecta brake with a different mounting?! Write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience older BA % actually the..., would you please include a Dynamic thunder technologies muzzle brake device on the muzzle rise ( that needs )...